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Over 31,000 US Scientists Deny Man Made Global Warming
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Dan Luke
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: Over 31,000 US Scientists Deny Man Made Global Warming Reply with quote

"0ZB0N" wrote:

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A claim not supported in any way. It is not established that a single
signatory is actually a practicing scientist.


So what evidence do you have that they are not practicing scientists?

Nice try, BOZO.

I'm not the one claiming 31,000 scientists signed the petition, Robinson is.

It's up to him to back up the claim.


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Is Gore a practicing scientist?

No.

But then, he never claimed to be, did he?



BTW, you're a liar and a fool.

Just for the record.
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V-for-Vendicar
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Over 31,000 US Scientists Deny Man Made Global Warming Reply with quote

"0ZB0N" <0ZB0N@do0d00.com> wrote
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Absolutely, and it's a classic for good reason.
CO2 is "only" 1% of the atmosphere,
and there is very little effective difference
between 1% and the 1.3% we allegedly have now!

It was 1.3 last decade Bonzo. Now it's 1.4 and rising at about 2% per
year.
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V-for-Vendicar
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Over 31,000 US Scientists Deny Man Made Global Warming Reply with quote

"0N0ZB" <0N0ZB@doooooodoooooo.com> wrote
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"Attributing global climate change to human CO2 production is akin to
trying to diagnose an automotive problem by ignoring the engine
(analogous to the Sun in the climate system) and the transmission (water
vapour) and instead focusing entirely, not on one nut on a rear wheel,
which would be analogous to total CO2, but on one thread on that nut,
which represents the human contribution." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of
the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor
Of Climatology, University of Winnipeg

And once again you are caught lying. Timothy Ball isn't a former professor
of climatology, and the University of Winnipeg has no climatoloty program.
Ball is a former geography professor with no training in climatology who
couldn't make it as a university professor (pubishing a total of 4 papers in
his entire career), who then cashed in by jumping on the big oil Gravy
train.

You should ask Ball about the little incident concerning the
Misappropriattion of University Resources at the University of Calgary by
his propaganda group - Friends of Science
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Eeyore
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Over 31,000 US Scientists Deny Man Made Global Warming Reply with quote

Enough Already wrote:

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The odd thing about James is that he's admitted there's a population
problem. He just doesn't care that it ties into environmental issues.
Maybe he hates people, yet at the same time hates nature. Talk about
confusion! :-]

Back in 1969 Paul Ehrlich said there was an upcoming population problem and
that people would be dying in their millions due to starvation in the 80s. I
have the book. It *seemed* to make sense at the time.

History has shown however that every single prediction of catastrophe and
disaster has proven to be utterly false.

AGW is no different. This time however it won't just be egg on ONE person's
face.

Graham
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Dan Luke
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Over 31,000 US Scientists Deny Man Made Global Warming Reply with quote

"0ZB0N" wrote:

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REMEMBER: The effect of CO2 is LOGARITHMIC!

Really?

Gosh!
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Poetic Justice
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Over 31,000 US Scientists Deny Man Made Global Warming Reply with quote

Enough Already wrote:
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On May 29, 5:23 pm, "Dan Luke" <t1...@dingdongsouth.net> wrote:

"Enough Already" wrote:

All sorts of professionals and/or quacks can claim to be
scientists. The real issue is what discipline and sub-disciplines
they practice. Engineers, whose job it is to alter nature, tend to
be "conservative" and disdainful of environmental warnings.
Many seem to be Creationists who see themselves as
mini-gods altering physical matter. Their brains shut down
when asked to comprehend evolution or the Earth sciences.



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You must have spent a lot of time around engineers.

That sure was mean.... calling him socially challenged and all.



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I sure have, in a variety of disciplines not strictly defined.

I've been dealing with them for years. Many are believers in aliens at
Roswell, faked moon landings, 9/11 conspiracies, etc.

They are poles apart from scientists.

Yes, very task-oriented and good for micro decisions, but with a
frequent failure to grasp the macro. That's a broad brush on the
profession but it seems to hold true. Here's a fairly prominent
example of engineer know-it-all, anti-environmentalist:

http://www.pushback.com/ (Smart guy, but too hooked on growthism to
see its evils.)

You'll find few real climatologists who think AGW is bogus.
Few critics could begin to replicate their experiments in the
lab or the field. They wouldn't know where to start, yet they cherry
pick climatologists' own data all the time. Armchair revelations
like "CO2 is "only" 1% of the atmosphere" is a classic. They think
that wasn't accounted for long ago?
Alas, you are wasting your time telling this to James the Denier Boi.

I post mainly for posterity and future keyword searches. Glad someone
is actually reading these things, if not James.

The odd thing about James is that he's admitted there's a population
problem. He just doesn't care that it ties into environmental issues.
Maybe he hates people, yet at the same time hates nature. Talk about
confusion! :-]

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/

Conservatives are obsessed with their rights and everyone else's
responsibilities.
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Dan Luke
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 3:28 am    Post subject: Re: Over 31,000 US Scientists Deny Man Made Global Warming Reply with quote

"Poetic Justice" wrote:

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You must have spent a lot of time around engineers.

That sure was mean.... calling him socially challenged and all.

It can happen to th best of us.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:28 am    Post subject: Over 31,000 US Scientists Deny Man Made Global Warming <= o Reply with quote

get real
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